[Tinyos-devel] Request for comments: TEP-108

[Neil Hancock]

To the TinyOS 2.0 core group

Congratulations to the  TinyOS 2.0 working groups. A truly amazing
achievement to get the next level of functionality released, and hopefully
working. I don't see any pointers to test data in the release notice - but
hopefully everybody has done their best and had fun with it.

However it does raise a question that I asked earlier and I feel I should
ask again:

     What is the purpose of the Tinyos-devel TEP community review requests?

It seems to me that the TEP community reviews are happening at a late stage
in the project cycle.

I initially volunteered to review TEP-108, and haven't done it due to being
snowed under in other areas. 
I have reviewed other TEPs and my sense of the TEP review's that I offered
was that even with some really basic comments, the TEP review is so late in
the project cycle that the authors don't feel able to incorporate anything
more.

I don't propose to respond to TEP review requests unless it is clear that
the TEP review is early in the project cycle, that the TEP hasn't already
been implemented and there is a clear intent to seek community input to
shape the TEP.

It could also be a failing in the TEP life cycle. That the documents are
"dead" documents and can't evolve once they are release.  
Another possibility in the TEP life cycle is that the TEPS are living
documents, with multiple reviews and releases and define phases, so that the
implementation can be phased. 

Keep up the good work - it is virtually impossible to do everything right
straight away, so trial-and-error has to be built in.

Neil



-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Klues [mailto:klueska at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 3:30 PM
To: Matt Welsh
Cc: TinyOS-Devel list
Subject: Re: [Tinyos-devel] Request for comments: TEP-108

Dear TinyOS developer community:

Matt Welsh sent out a request for comments on TEP 108 on October 20th.
 Until now no one has responded to this request, and the deadline
before  the TEP moves into final review is November 17th.  If you have
anything to say, anything at all, don't hesitate to express your
opinion.  I'm sure the TEP isn't perfect, and any feedback would be
greatly appreciated. The TEP is attached to this email for
convenience, otherwise you can find it in the tinyos-2.x source tree
under tinyos-2.x/doc/html/tep108.html

Thanks.

Kevin


On 10/20/06, Matt Welsh <mdw at eecs.harvard.edu> wrote:
> Dear TinyOS developer community:
>
> I have been asked to help shepherd TEP 108 on Resource Arbitration.
> This TEP concerns new interfaces in TinyOS 2.x to allow multiple
> components to arbitrate access to shared resources, e.g., ADC lines,
> UART, radio, etc.
>
> Getting feedback from other TinyOS developers on this document is
> essential to moving the TEP process forward. I would appreciate it if I
> could get a couple of volunteers to read over this TEP and submit
> comments back to me. I will work with the authors of the TEP to revise
> the proposal based on your comments.
>
> The current draft for the TEP is attached to this email. Please note
> this is a DRAFT only and is not final.
>
> If you are able to help out, please contact me ASAP!
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Matt Welsh
>
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~Kevin