[Tinyos-help] Delta application -help required

Joe Polastre joe at polastre.com
Thu Aug 31 23:40:30 PDT 2006


Please go through the TinyOS tutorial.  These are basic questions that
are answered by this tutorial.

-Joe

On 8/31/06, siva prasad <sivakatru at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> thanks for tht idea michael...
>
> if i changed the value of AM_COUNTMSG to some other value(say 35) it is was
> compiling ..but it is not sending any data....why..?
>
> now i want to introduce one more "uint_16t reading2" variable into the
> structure..deltamsg:--
> ----for using another external ADC port and sending tht value...in the msg..
>
> it was compiling but ...it is not sending any data...i think this is the
> problem with the AM_DELTAMSG=33....i hav tried with different values of the
> same value ....still it is not working...
> pls help me...
>
>
>
> On 8/31/06, Michael Schippling <schip at santafe.edu> wrote:
> > Usually anything starting with AM_ is meant to be used
> > as a message type indicator, to stick in TOS_Msg.type
> > The values are arbitrary, and there is no master
> > dictionary of types.
> >
> > Also, one thought on your sampling problem. If the signal
> > changes you are interested in are sporadic, you might have
> > the mote detect them and only transmit when there is some
> > thing of interest.
> >
> > MS
> >
> > siva prasad wrote:
> > > hi...sorry to bother u again...
> > > why in Delta application ..the "enum"....AM_DELTAMSG is initialised to
> 33;
> > > can any body pls explain....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/30/06, *Michael Schippling* <schip at santafe.edu
> > > <mailto:schip at santafe.edu>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Keptin, I kenna change th'laws o'physics...
> > >
> > >     siva prasad wrote:
> > >      > again thanks for tht explanation...i can understand tht
> problem...
> > >      > As i told previously, my system is highly dynamic in nature...in
> > >     order
> > >      > to monitor such dynamical system is there any better idea...not
> like
> > >      > sending 10 readings in one packet after 10ms...
> > >      >
> > >      > thanks in advance...
> > >      >
> > >      > siva katru
> > >      >
> > >      > On 8/30/06, *Michael Schippling* <schip at santafe.edu
> > >     <mailto: schip at santafe.edu>
> > >      > <mailto:schip at santafe.edu <mailto:schip at santafe.edu>>> wrote:
> > >      >
> > >      >     As I said, based on my (small) experience with micaz I
> believe
> > >      >     that 100 messages per second is about the max you can expect.
> > >      >     And that 100 is for the total system, not per mote (unless of
> > >      >     course you have only one mote transmitting). If you are doing
> > >      >     multihop then you need to divide the total messages by the
> > >      >     number of hops (each hop being it's own message) to get even
> > >      >     a best case estimate -- ignoring hidden nodes and any other
> > >      >     actual practical considerations.
> > >      >
> > >      >     So the only way I see to get your higher sample rate is to
> > >      >     aggregate samples, say 10 per message. You would need to
> > >      >     do some testing in various configurations to see how many
> > >      >     messages you can get...let's say, the source and two hops
> gives
> > >      >     you best case 30 msg/sec, with 10 samples/msg, is 300
> > >     samples/sec.
> > >      >
> > >      >     Nobody said that motes were a High Speed sensor network...
> > >      >     MS
> > >      >
> > >      >
> > >      >     siva prasad wrote:
> > >      >      > thanks for ur reply michael,
> > >      >      >
> > >      >      > if i sample the signal at 1ms(suppose for 50hz signal)
> > >     then it
> > >      >     will be
> > >      >      > better ...that is required for my application ...one more
> > >     thing
> > >      >     is that,
> > >      >      > the system tht i want to monitor is highly dynamic in
> > >     nature..so the
> > >      >      > data should be send for every 1ms...i think 1ms is
> > >     sufficient for
> > >      >     just
> > >      >      > measuring the external ADC value..and sending this value
> using
> > >      >      > multihop(must) technique...
> > >      >      > But the problem is..... i am losing lot of packets abt 50%
> > >     even
> > >      >     for the
> > >      >      > sampling period at 10 ms....do u hav any different idea
> tht
> > >      >     ...how can i
> > >      >      > overcome this problem....
> > >      >      > any help should be highly appreciated...
> > >      >      >
> > >      >      > if we cant sample and send(using multihop) the data in 1ms
> > >     ...pls
> > >      >     give
> > >      >      > the reason...
> > >      >      >
> > >      >      > still i did nt clear my old doubts...
> > >      >      >
> > >      >      >
> > >      >      > On 8/30/06, *Michael Schippling* <schip at santafe.edu
> > >     <mailto:schip at santafe.edu>
> > >      >     <mailto: schip at santafe.edu <mailto:schip at santafe.edu>>
> > >      >      > <mailto:schip at santafe.edu <mailto:schip at santafe.edu>
> > >     <mailto:schip at santafe.edu <mailto:schip at santafe.edu >>>> wrote:
> > >      >      >
> > >      >      >     I don't know the message rate you can expect from
> > >     moteiv motes
> > >      >      >     but if you are trying to send one sample every 10ms
> > >     you are
> > >      >      >     probably pretty close to the limit (somewhere on the
> > >     order of
> > >      >      >     100 msg/sec is the max for micaz's). You'll probably
> > >     need to
> > >      >      >     collect multiple samples in one message to get
> anywhere at
> > >      >     30Hz...
> > >      >      >
> > >      >      >     Let me know if you need clarification one answers to
> > >     your other
> > >      >      >     questions.
> > >      >      >     MS
> > >      >      >
> > >      >      >
> > >      >      >     siva prasad wrote:
> > >      >      >      >
> > >      >      >      >
> > >      >      >      > From: *siva prasad* < sivakatru at gmail.com
> > >     <mailto: sivakatru at gmail.com>
> > >      >     <mailto:sivakatru at gmail.com <mailto:sivakatru at gmail.com>>
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> > >      >      >      > Date: Aug 28, 2006 12:52 AM
> > >      >      >      > Subject: Delta application -help required
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> > >      >      >      > hi all...
> > >      >      >      >
> > >      >      >      > i am working on sampling the ADC value instead of
> > >      >      >     DEmosensorc...in the
> > >      >      >      > delta application provided by moteiv.....
> > >      >      >      >
> > >      >      >      > i am glad to say tht ..i hav successfully compiled
> > >     it ...
> > >      >      >      > and installed..it worked...
> > >      >      >      > the problem is when i tried to undrstand the
> > >     program..i am
> > >      >     facing
> > >      >      >     some
> > >      >      >      > difficulties....
> > >      >      >      >
> > >      >      >      > -> i could nt understand the
> task..named...sendDone( )
> > >      >      >      >
> > >      >      >      > -> while i tried to see the raw data using listen
> > >      >     tool...it is
> > >      >      >     showing
> > >      >      >      > 42 bytes...but i could nt figured out the data
> format..
> > >      >      >      >
> > >      >      >      > ->one more problem is...the signal tht i want to
> > >     sample is
> > >      >     a low
> > >      >      >      > frequency signal..abt 30Hz...
> > >      >      >      >    if i increase the sampling time to 10ms ..i am
> > >     losing
> > >      >     lots of
> > >      >      >     packets...
> > >      >      >      >
> > >      >      >      > can any body pls help me...
> > >      >      >      >
> > >      >      >      > thanks
> > >      >      >      >
> > >      >      >      > siva katru
> > >      >      >      >
> > >      >      >      >
> > >      >      >      >
> > >      >      >
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