[Tinyos-help] RE: Where is the sensor reading in the received message?

Saif A. Al-Hiddabi hiddabi at gmail.com
Thu Nov 1 15:21:44 PDT 2007


I did compile the CountUart and I get the following from the listen 
04 00 00 00 00 00 7E 00 04 7D 00 5F 00 01
04 00 00 00 00 00 7E 00 04 7D 00 60 00 01
04 00 00 00 00 00 7E 00 04 7D 00 61 00 01

So I do see changes in the third column from the right. But why this is not
the case with Delta, by the way the "log" output do reflect the temperature
ADC Counts since

1193897839449 Message <MultiHopMsg> 
   [sourceaddr=0x1]
   [originaddr=0x1]
   [seqno=0x6d8]
   [originseqno=0x6d8]
   [ttl=0x0]
   [id=0x21]
   [data=0xde 0x5 0x0 0x0 0xa7 0xb 0x7e 0x0 0x3 0x0 0x7e 0x0 0xff 0xff 0xff
 0xff 0x0 0x0 ]

Since (ba7) is 2983 and this is the scope reading. Unfortunately I can not
see this in the listen command which produce only
 08 00 00 00 00 00 7E 00 65 7D 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00
 08 00 00 00 00 00 7E 00 65 7D 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00
 08 00 00 00 00 00 7E 00 65 7D 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00
 ...

Any help?

SAIF
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Schippling [mailto:schip at santafe.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:01 PM
To: Saif A. Al-Hiddabi
Cc: 'Tinyos-Help'
Subject: Re: Where is the sensor reading in the received message?

In response to both of your recent messages....

There should be no difference between Listen results and display results,
if one changes the other should as well. So I can't explain why you don't
see any new data in the Listen output...

However the Listen output doesn't match the "log" output you show,
beyond what might be a source address of 1. My recent experience with
tmote messages indicates that the first 10 bytes are the telos/AM.h
header, so the bytes after the '7D' should be the payload. Assuming that
such payload is supposed to be a DeltaMsg from
    moteiv/apps/Delta/Delta.h
then you are not getting enough bytes -- you should be getting more than
14 but are only getting 8. And the fields listed in the Multihop log do
not match the names of the DeltaMsg. Also the message type shown in the
Listen output is 0x65 but the delta message type is 33 (0x21).
So again I have no clue about what you are seeing...

I found that using the CountUart demo app (if you can get it to compile)
provided a more straight-forward connection between message and Listen
behavior...

MS



Saif A. Al-Hiddabi wrote:
> I understand now the ADC count, thank to you. I tried serial at COM4:tmote
and
> I do get cleaner messages of the following structure
> 
> 08 00 00 00 00 00 7E 00 65 7D 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00
> 08 00 00 00 00 00 7E 00 65 7D 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00
> 08 00 00 00 00 00 7E 00 65 7D 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00
> ...
> 
> But this message continues with the same numbers and letters and nothing
> change regardless of tmote temperature. When I use the Trawler I notice
the
> change in the temperature significantly in the graph and the ADC counts.
Is
> there any difference between what is displayed by the "listen" and what is
> plotted by the Trawler? I mean where is the measurements and what bytes
the
> Trawler is plotting? Is there a different way to look for the Delta
message
> structure (i.e. different from what is shown above by listen command) what
I
> should I do?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> SAIF

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> I logged this packet that is going to Trawler from Delta and I obtained
the
> following
> 
> 1193897839449 Message <MultiHopMsg> 
>   [sourceaddr=0x1]
>   [originaddr=0x1]
>   [seqno=0x6d8]
>   [originseqno=0x6d8]
>   [ttl=0x0]
>   [id=0x21]
>   [data=0xde 0x5 0x0 0x0 0xa7 0xb 0x7e 0x0 0x3 0x0 0x7e 0x0 0xff 0xff 0xff
> 0xff 0x0 0x0 ]
> 
> Which bytes representing the temperature measurement in the above packet?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> SAIF

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Schippling [mailto:schip at santafe.edu] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:01 PM
> To: Saif A. Al-Hiddabi
> Cc: 'Tinyos-Help'
> Subject: Re: Where is the sensor reading in the received message?
> 
> Try  serial at COM4:tmote  for your MOTECOM, I believe it will
> select some special parsing for tmote messages. At least it let
> me receive Delta msgs with Listen.
> 
> You'll have to go look at the Delta message structure to see which
> bytes are of interest, I don't know offhand.
> 
> As to the 3000 value...I think we're talking a 12bit ADC whose max
> value would be 4096 (if I remember any binary math....). So it's about
> 3/4 of the full scale reading. You might google info about calibrating
> the sensor, but in general you can say 3000 is your room-temp-plus-
> tmote-heat and go from there.
> 
> MS
> 
> Saif A. Al-Hiddabi wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>> I am new to using Tmote and started by testing the Delat application that
>> came with the quick start guide. I can see the internal temperature in
the
>> Trawler scope measured with DC counts (approx 3000) (I do not know what
> ADC
>> count mean?) but I see changes in this value if I pass the Tmote near a
> heat
>> source :) Now I tried to see the message that the Tmote is sending
through
>> COM4 port so I typed in the cygwin
>> $ export MOTECOM=serial at COM4:57600
>> $ java net.tinyos.tools.Listen
>>
>> And I get the following
>>
>> TOS_Msg length is invalid: header_length=5,real_length=18 ... modifying
> msg
>> to fit
>> Received message:08 00 00 00 00 00 7E 00 65 7D 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00
>> 08 00 00 00 00
>> TOS_Msg length is invalid: header_length=5,real_length=18 ... modifying
> msg
>> to fit
>> Received message:08 00 00 00 00 00 7E 00 65 7D 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00
>> 08 00 00 00 00
>>
>> And it continues like this.
>>
>> My question is where is the temperature reading in this message? And why
> the
>> numbers/letters in this message are not changing if the temperature
around
>> the Tmote is changing? I tried to read the Tmote message (i.e. the
>> temperature) using another program that can read serial message from COM4
>> but I am getting this
>> 7E 42 08 00 00 00 00 00 7D 5E 00 65 7D 5D 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 0D 31
7E
>> 7E 00
>> 7E 42 08 00 00 00 00 00 7D 5E 00 65 7D 5D 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 0D 31
7E
>> 7E 00
>> And it continues like this? So how to retrieve the sensor measurement
from
>> such message?
>>
>> I appreciate your help..
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> SAIF



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